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Retrieved October 29, 2013. It was never used in Germany. So, maybe that is the difference Stetson added the maple leaf. Notice that the shield has a field of dating stetson hats in the upper left hand corner near the beaver figure. Stetson changed all that and built one of America's most well-known and successful businesses. Follow the arrow and look behind the sweatband for the custodes What do they look like. With regards to the leather sweatband seam being sewn as opposed to taped together with an adhesive cloth tape, in general this changeover happened around 1941 at Hat Corporation of America, though taped seams may have existed for a few years on some hats into the 1940s. Print pleating of the skirt at its waist is seen from the 1840s-1860s, fading out by the 1870s.

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Please help date these men's hats - A milliner may be able to stretch the hat a little, but it will eventually go back to its original size due to the blocking done during the making of the hat. Hatters may suggest that the sweat be turned out when drying a modern, newly made hat, but this is NOT a good habit on vintage hats for the reason noted above.

January 1, 2012 Filed Under , , , , Comments Off on Dating Stetson Hats By Inventory Tag -By Warner Todd Huston Hats are often impossible to date in exact terms. Once in a while there is an actual ink stamp on the inside of a leather sweatband telling us the date the hat was made or sold but this is very rare. Sometimes there is an original receipt from when the hat was purchased. Even less reliable is family lore on when a hat was purchased so few people know anything about hats that this is a highly unreliable method of dating. Other times we know through hat company advertisements that a particular, marked model was only sold during a specific time period. But usually one can only make an educated guess based on when particular models were introduced taken with the various manufacturing methods used on the hat. For that we are shocked and grateful. One of the reasons you found us, though, is because information on hats is not just hard to find, it is very, very hard to find. All the hat terms you need to know to understand the world of hats and hat wearing. Here we endeavor to answer that question. Wherein we help you date your Stetson using the tags noted. These tags are another of the many ways to track down a date of a Stetson hat. This fascinating page has detailed photos of Stetson cowboy hat collection. These hats were made from the late 1800s, through the 1900s. This is an interesting walk through my personal collection of antique fedoras. Please enjoy the journey. And now on with Dating Stetson Hats By Inventory Tag… Collectors have the most information on Stetsons but even that is hard to pin down. The following is what collectors know so far about dating a Stetson. This information is always changing as collectors are finding out more and more and newer vintage examples come to light. Dating Stetsons by inventory, style and sizing, or re-order number tags might only give you a general set of dates of not more than a decade or two, but taking note of these inventory tags can give you a general idea of the era in which your hat was made. The idea with these tags was that you could re-order your favorite hat style simply by telling Stetson what your tag said. On that tag is a style number, a block number, and a size, etc. With this innovative system a customer never had to guess what sort of hat he had and never had to be forced to try a new style when his old hat wore out. If he liked the type of hat he had he could get it replaced with one exactly like it. Customer service was the word of the day! These tags had other uses, too. It was also a way for Stetson to keep track of what was going on in the factory. The tags helped track what hats sold the most and where they were in the manufacturing process. Whether on a Stetson tag or on that of another hat maker, some of the information on these tags were crown depth, hat size, blocking number, finish style, sometimes even color appeared on them but not often. And, of course, the name of the hat company and sometimes its address were also on these tags. Where can you find these tags? On Stetsons there were two of these stickers glued to the felt behind the sweatband, at the back of the hat. This is the inside of the hat. Follow the arrow and look behind the sweatband for the tags What do they look like? Here is what it looks like when you turn down the leather sweatband WARNING Now, be very, very careful when you turn that sweatband down. On older hats the sweatband stitching can be very delicate. Turning down that leather in a rough manner can easily result in the stitching breaking apart of the leather cracking. If you are afraid of damaging the hat, just take a peek behind that leather. If the hat is in great shape, though, go ahead and turn it out. But be aware that a leather sweatband is NOT made to be constantly flipped in and out of the hat. Hatters may suggest that the sweat be turned out when drying a modern, newly made hat, but this is NOT a good habit on vintage hats for the reason noted above. A leather sweatband is generally manufactured to stay flipped inward to hold the proper shape of the hat opening but the bigger problem is age. It is not usually safe to flip sweatbands in and out on an older hat. So, once you see your reorder and size tags, best to take a photo of them and then never flip that sweatband out again if you can help it! Reorder, Size, and Finish Tag Styles and Dating Late in the 1800s Stetson instituted a great idea for customer relations. Once he found a hat style he liked, he usually tried to stay with that as long as possible. A man was making a personal statement with his hat. So, Stetson implemented a way for a man to replace his favorite hat with exactly the same style as his lost or worn out hat. The ultimate in customer service. This reorder system lasted from the late 1800s to about 1960 when Stetson finally dropped the service. The separate re-order tag seemed to appear in a myriad of different versions. The first was a brown tag that was almost square—but not quite—and lasted to sometime in the mid to late 1920s. Then came a second version in orange. Finally came an orange version that was a bit more rectangular than the second. But there were several other types, to. Still, it is currently unknown just when Stetson started using paper tags inside hats to denote size, style, reorder numbers and block and crown depths. The earliest tag I have seen is from somewhere between the 1870s and 1900. In any case, Stetson seems to have had well over a dozen different tags that all appeared in certain eras. This English Bobby-like police hat was popular in American cities until the early 1900s when they went out of fashion for our police departments. This one is similar to the one above, but has the categories moved around a bit. The black and white tag is often seen on bowlers. This one has only been seen a handful of times. It perhaps from the 1900s or as late as 1920. This was found in a bowler. Here is another alternate version, this one also a rare sighting. Again it is unknown how long this one was used. Early in the 1900s, perhaps as early as the 1910s, Stetson began to separate the re-order tags. Separate Reorder Tag Styles and Dating Ultimately, Stetson used the two separate tags from sometime in the 1920s all the way until about 1950 or so when they went to the white tag seen below. This tag went from about the 1900s to somewhere in the late 1920s. This one was mostly gone by the mid to late 20s but some stocks of them were still being used up. This tag came to light recently from collectors at the Fedora Lounge website and seems to be from the 1900s to 1920s or so. It is either the brownish color of the early tag or the orange color of the later tag surrounded by a plain paper border with accents. Not many of these have been seen so it is unknown how often it was used. Another alternate version of the brown tag same dates as above. Here is another shot of the alternate tag as above from a different hat, only this one is showing how the re-order number would have been printed on the tag. This is from a 1900 Paris Grand Prize model derby from sometime between 1900 and 1920. This is not real common, but it happens. This one was found in a 1920s era fedora. It was essentially the same tag as the brown one, just printed in orange. Separate Size and Style Tags Here are the separate size and style tags. Orange tag from the early to mid 30s to about 1940, note how panels are slightly different than above. Orange tag from 1940 to the mid 1950s, note the further change in the panel set up. An alternate tag to the one above, this one with the colors reversed. This was discovered in a practically destroyed Stetson Stratoliner Vita Felt from the early 1940s. Notice that Stetson went back to incorporating the re-order and size info on the same tag. The first use of this tag seems to date to 1952 or so, but the earlier orange and red tags were also being used concurrently with this white one for at least 5 years after this white one was introduced. Collectors speculate Stetson was just using up its stock of the read and orange ones before going with the white one full time. These re-order tags were a standard for many decades, but by the time the 60s and early 70s rolled around, Stetson had switched its inventory system to a computer-based system and began to use a big fold out tag that was glued to the side behind the sweatband instead of being glued to the felt in the back of the hat behind the sweatband. This last tag was about 2 inches wide and folded out to be 3 inches or so long. Of course, by the 1970s, Stetson had done away with the idea that you could reorder your hat by the tag information, anyway. Stetson decided it did not want to spend the time messing around with all the records that the tags required them to maintain. Sadly, at this time all those old records were destroyed. All those records… just gone. Post 1970 tag and the end of the re-ordering feature Non-Stetson Hat Manufacturers Inventory tags were quite common throughout the hat-making industry between the late 1890s all the way to the 1960s. There are all sorts of these tags and while they differ from manufacturer to manufacturer, one general rule of thumb is that they got smaller over the years. They also got less and less fancy. Early tags were quite fancy with little flourishes and fancy type styles. Then, as time moved on, all the prettiness of these tags went away until they just looked like a tag a computer churned out. Some manufacturers really got fancy. The latter two are from the late 1940s. No Name Hats Hoyt Hats Biskup Hats So, there you have it, folks. Some examples of inventory tags from other manufacturers. This system persisted until the hat industry went belly up as a customizable product. He has been writing opinion editorials and social criticism since early 2001 and before that he wrote articles on U. For a full bio, please. Comments comments Fair Use: This site may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. 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